Catching up on another episode with Tony Pham — fractional CMO, Web3 marketing leader, and certified meditation teacher — as he shares a rare blend of startup intensity and grounded calm. From nearly becoming a diplomat to scaling Life360 to 60M+ users and helping shape some of crypto’s most influential projects like Kava, Kadena, and TrustToken, Tony unpacks a career driven by curiosity, clarity, and calm under pressure.

In this episode, Tony dives into the pivots, principles, and practices that helped him navigate Web2, Web3, and now AI infrastructure — without burning out.

In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why Tony chose a small Midwest college (Grinnell) and how international affairs nearly led him to the Foreign Service.
• The pivotal repositioning that helped Life360 take off — and what 60M users taught him about product-market fit.
• How he transitioned from traditional tech into crypto and stablecoins before most people understood their real-world use.
• The core skill that gave him an edge across industries: translating complex tech into language people actually understand.
• How meditation and nervous-system awareness help founders make better decisions in high-pressure environments.
• Why Kava is expanding beyond DeFi into decentralized AI — and what Web3 values could mean for the future of AI.

Guest(s): Tony Pham
Host(s): Michael Peres
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Tony Pham is a fractional CMO who has led marketing for leading crypto and AI companies like Kava, Kadena, and TrustToken, previously helped scale Life360 to over 60 million users, and is also a Fulbright scholar and certified meditation teacher.

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