The conversation
Michael Peres is joined by Chris Kline — co-founder and COO of Bitcoin IRA — as we dive deep into the evolution of crypto retirement investing, the psychology of Bitcoin adoption, and why long-term thinking may be the most powerful strategy in volatile markets. From launching the world’s first cryptocurrency IRA to overseeing more than $14 billion in assets under custody, Chris shares how alternative assets, tax strategy, and conviction investing intersect in the future of finance.
In this episode, you’ll learn
- How Chris went from graduating during the 2008 financial crisis to building Bitcoin IRA.
- Why Bitcoin’s long-term performance and scarcity make it compelling for retirement portfolios.
- The difference between Traditional, Roth, and SEP IRAs and how crypto fits into each.
- How taxes silently erode crypto gains and why tax-advantaged accounts matter.
- The role institutional adoption, ETFs, and macroeconomics play in Bitcoin’s future.
- Why the retirement crisis is growing and what individuals can do today to prepare.
- How AI, blockchain, and digital payments could reshape the global financial system.
- The psychology behind Bitcoin investing, volatility, and long-term conviction.
Meet the guests
Chris Kline has been in the alternative IRA business since 2012 and in 2016 he developed the world’s first cryptocurrency IRA. Chris is the Co-Founder and COO of BitcoinIRA which has over $14 Billion in assets under custody.
